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Will my dog listen to me the way he listens to the trainer?

Existing draft · inherited source review / handover

Authority is not a private relationship with one person - it transfers - but it does not arrive with the dog, and it goes up only each time somebody actually enforces a command.

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Answer

It transfers, and it starts out not being true. Those two things are both said on camera and they are the whole answer. The theory is stated flatly in a crate-aggression session: people always think authority is an individual-level respect thing, and it is not - it is very easily generalised and transferable to people, and once it has been generalised to two other handlers it becomes easy to move. That claim gets designed into the work rather than asserted: the same dog is run through the protocol by different people, then handed to kennel staff who are not trainers, with the outcome stated in the owner's own terms - he can be boarded like a normal dog. Another dog is handed to a colleague he has never worked for, ignores her at first, and then starts working. But the starting point is the opposite. The obedience a board-and-train produces belongs at first to the trainer. One case records it three ways: as a measurement, when a recall that was fine around the handler collapsed the moment the owner entered the session; as a pattern named to the family's faces; and as a mechanism, which is that dogs perform helplessness in front of the people who have previously rescued them. The trainer says it to the dog out loud - you act out a lot around your mom, I'm not going to lie to you. That is why the go-home lesson exists at all, and why one trainer says a video of the dog heeling with him proves nothing: if you cannot get her to do it, it does not really matter. The mechanism given for the gap is a running total. Respect is not permanent; it goes up each time you reinforce something. So the dog works better for whichever person means it and routes around the other, and the trainer tells one couple he now knows which of the two is the softer. In a household with more than one adult the rule is that whoever holds the leash is the one being answered, and a second person correcting from outside splits the authority so the dog starts attending to the wrong person. The handler-side job when a dog hides behind his person is counter-intuitive and specific: she does nothing except get out of the way, and the person who gave the command makes it non-optional. Two honest limits are given. A handler who uses a different word, or another language, will not get the behaviour even though the dog knows it - so the mitigation offered is a written command list with your own follow-through attached, plus your own consistency, on the grounds that some is better than none. And some dogs do not distribute themselves across a household at all: one dog in this corpus is described as a one-person dog who likes one guy, and the placement is built around making sure that one guy is the new owner. What is inferred rather than said: nobody tests the transfer to an actual client family on camera. The stranger tests in this corpus are run with colleagues.

Owner takeaway

Assume the dog does not listen to you yet, and that this is normal rather than a failure. Take the leash at the lesson, get the commands wrong in front of the trainer while he is there to fix it, and ask him to step out of his own demonstration so you can see what the dog does for you alone. Whoever is holding the leash gives the commands - the other adult does not correct from the sidelines, because that splits the dog's attention onto the wrong person. If your dog hides behind you when somebody else asks him for something, move out of the way and let that person finish it. And write down the exact words your dog knows, so a sitter, a groomer or a relative uses the word the dog was taught rather than one he has never heard.

Across the cases

bo

Bo's return block is where the claim is made and then tested. In February, in a crate-aggression session, the trainer states the theory outright: authority is not an individual-level respect thing, it generalises easily, and once it has been carried to two other people it moves. The next sessions do it - generalise to other people and other scenarios, keep working the crate - and in April it is cashed out under conditions that matter. The stated aim is that Bo is capable of listening to more than one person including people he has not worked with, so like kennel staff, and can be boarded like a normal dog; the bar is explicitly set at handlers of different skill levels who are not professional trainers. Bo also supplies the honest limit, in answer to the owner's own question about people who are not her: a handler who gives the wrong command, in the wrong word or another language, will not get the behaviour. The only mitigations offered are a written command list with the owner's own follow-through attached, and her own consistency - some is better than none.

it's not like people always think that the authority is just an individual level respect thing and it's not it's very easily generalized and transferable to people

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Bo is capable of listening to more than one person, including people that he hasn't worked with, so like kennel staff, and that he's just fine to go in and out of the crate and be totally normal and be boarded like a normal dog.

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have him go in and out of the crate for them and follow commands with different like skill levels for handlers so not all professional dog trainers

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Deuce

Deuce is the case that records the gap three different ways. As a measurement: the recall is nice around the trainer, and in a session with the owner present the dog's control dropped a lot the moment she entered. As a statement to the family's faces, and then to the dog's - you act out a lot around your mom, I'm not going to lie to you. And as method: the trainer identifies himself as the confounding variable and steps out of his own demonstration, because the dog will catch on to him quickly and he wants to see what the dog does otherwise. The multi-adult rule is asked for by an owner and answered with its failure mode rather than a principle: whoever has the leash is who the dog answers to, and a second person correcting from outside teaches the dog to attend to the person who is not holding it. The go-home lesson opens by stating the goal for the household - both of you will know how to handle him.

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You act out a lot around your mom. I'm not going to lie to you.

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Okay. This kind of process of it, right? So, what I'm going to have you do cuz he'll catch on to me pretty quick, but I'm I want to see what he does. So, have one of these in one of your hands.

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so anybody who has the leash the respect needs to be whoever is walking them yeah um if it was

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stormie

Stormie's case gives the mechanism and the distribution. Authority is not a permanent possession: she respects the trainer more because he reinforces everything, and the thing about respect is that once you reinforce it, the authority goes up. It is also not evenly spread across a household - she will work faster for whichever owner means it and route around the other - and the trainer says out loud, on camera, that he now knows which of the two is the soft one. The behaviour that makes a soft household lose ground is described precisely: with more people around she yelps and gets dramatic and tries to make people feel bad for her, because that used to make people go away.

She does, like she respects me more because like I reinforce everything with her. So the thing with respect though is that it's not like a permanent thing. Once you reinforce it, then the authority goes up.

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i know who the softy of you two is now though

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is when there's more people around she'll actually yelp and be dramatic and like try to make people feel bad for her because then people would go away and she'd go back to like not yelping

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luna

Luna's handover is the only place in the corpus where the transfer is performed on camera, in a session that visibly is not going well and is not edited to look as though it is. The argument for it is stated plainly: she does a lot of testing, so the drop-off is where the training gets proved - and a video of her heeling with the trainer is great, but if the owner cannot get her to do it, it does not really matter. When the owner's marker turns out not to carry weight, the fix is procedural rather than motivational: the owner says the word, the trainer's collar backs it, and the owner's voice charges up the way the trainer's did. The reason the lesson exists at all is given to camera the day before - you have to show people how to reinforce what you are talking about, or it goes downhill fast.

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of course that also means that you have to show people how to reinforce what you're talking about if you don't then it goes downhill really fast so So, that's why we have our go home license. Because we really need to make sure that everybody knows, like, hey, is this how you're gonna maintain this dog?

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Roxy

Roxy and Ramsey are where voice-specific obedience is available and is deliberately refused. When one trainer notices the other's dog answering him, he treats it as the goal rather than as a problem, and neither man tries to own his own dog. The reason is the household they are going to: they are not going to be one-person dogs, they need to listen to both, at least mom and dad and whoever else lives there. The second trainer adds the caution that keeps it honest - responding to two trainers will not generalise automatically to the family. And the variable is taken further than the voice: commands are practised from a seated handler, because the dogs are used to a person standing up to give them and the posture must not become part of the cue.

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Because they're used to you standing and giving commands.

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Zeus

Zeus supplies the half of the problem that belongs to the owner, and it is the counter-intuitive half. When the dog will not answer somebody else and goes behind his person, her job is to do nothing except get out of the way, so he cannot use her as a shield. The obligation stays with whoever gave the command: that person makes it non-optional and sees it through. Two people, two jobs, and the owner's is the one nobody guesses.

You do nothing except for like kind of like get out of the way so he doesn't hide behind you and Then it's up to the other person that they just have to do like what I did They just have to make it not optional. They have to make sure he does it. That's it.

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King

King's file gives the everyday version: a dog takes commands from the person he is paired with in the moment. Kelton says it about his own household - right now he is a great dog, but if my wife were here he probably would not listen, and that is why we do the home lesson. His wife says the same thing from the other side on a two-handler walk, about her own dog: she knows she's with me, so she's not listening to you. That is not disobedience, it is pairing, and the same walk produces the accidental proof of the other direction, when a release word intended for one dog lands on the other and the first has been waiting for it the whole time.

like right now he's a great dog, but if my wife was here, he probably would not listen. That's why we do the home lesson.

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Bullet

Bullet's session contains the only deliberate stranger test in the corpus. The dog is handed to somebody he has not worked for and asked to take her cues; he ignores her at first - you don't know me - and then starts working, and she narrates her own doubt and its resolution honestly. What makes the test valid is the coaching, and it is about the line rather than the dog: hold it steady, do not let it pass through your hands, do not let it move, so that nothing the dog does can be attributed to hidden help. The limit on what it proves is that the person is a colleague, not an owner - so the transfer that actually matters to a board-and-train is still untested here.

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Louie

Louie is the exception the rest of the concept has to account for. Some dogs do not distribute themselves across a household at all - he is described as a one-dog one-person dog who does not like everybody and likes one guy - and rather than treating that as a fault to fix, the placement is built around it: that one guy needs to be the new owner, the introduction is slowed for that reason, and the hand-over protocol makes that person the source of food, movement and company for the first days. A related pattern appears in another session as cross-talk between handlers: a dog who is fine with the rest of the staff and triggered by one particular person for no findable reason, managed operationally by deciding who moves which dog.

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Source excerpts

it's not like people always think that the authority is just an individual level respect thing and it's not it's very easily generalized and transferable to people

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Bo is capable of listening to more than one person, including people that he hasn't worked with, so like kennel staff, and that he's just fine to go in and out of the crate and be totally normal and be boarded like a normal dog.

Watch at 13:19 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

have him go in and out of the crate for them and follow commands with different like skill levels for handlers so not all professional dog trainers

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the best thing that we can do is be like, "Hey, like you can tell him these are the commands he knows. Um, and this is how I follow through with it typically. Maybe they don't want to do it that way.

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You act out a lot around your mom. I'm not going to lie to you.

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Okay. This kind of process of it, right? So, what I'm going to have you do cuz he'll catch on to me pretty quick, but I'm I want to see what he does. So, have one of these in one of your hands.

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so anybody who has the leash the respect needs to be whoever is walking them yeah um if it was

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She does, like she respects me more because like I reinforce everything with her. So the thing with respect though is that it's not like a permanent thing. Once you reinforce it, then the authority goes up.

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i know who the softy of you two is now though

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is when there's more people around she'll actually yelp and be dramatic and like try to make people feel bad for her because then people would go away and she'd go back to like not yelping

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of course that also means that you have to show people how to reinforce what you're talking about if you don't then it goes downhill really fast so So, that's why we have our go home license. Because we really need to make sure that everybody knows, like, hey, is this how you're gonna maintain this dog?

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Because they're used to you standing and giving commands.

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You do nothing except for like kind of like get out of the way so he doesn't hide behind you and Then it's up to the other person that they just have to do like what I did They just have to make it not optional. They have to make sure he does it. That's it.

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like right now he's a great dog, but if my wife was here, he probably would not listen. That's why we do the home lesson.

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How the trainers explain it

Two mechanisms are stated and they are not the same claim. The first is about generalisation: authority behaves like any other trained context, so running the same protocol with a second and third handler makes the next one easy, and the test of whether it worked is a person the dog has not worked with (Ng6cwjwDpJw 10:41; C7q24XpAKv8 13:19). The second is about accumulation, and it is what explains why the dog does not arrive listening to you: respect is not permanent, it goes up each time somebody actually reinforces something, so the person who has reinforced most gets answered first (A5tEoaHw99Y 50:27). Put together they predict exactly what the corpus records - the dog is loose with the family and tight with the trainer at first, finds the softest person and tests there (VRyDgbvW1cg 41:14), and can be moved onto a new person by that person doing the reinforcing. The go-home fix follows from the same arithmetic: the owner says the marker and the trainer's collar backs it, so the owner's word charges up the way the trainer's did (_TVllc3GPIQ 14:14). The limits come from the parts that are not authority at all. A command is a word, so a handler using a different word does not get the behaviour no matter how much authority they have (gOSrsaz6jTg 08:38). And the posture the command was given in can quietly become part of the cue, which is why they are practised seated (vUgo_X0DxGc 10:30). What is inferred rather than stated: nothing on film explains why some dogs - Louie - have only one slot to give, or how to tell in advance which dogs those are.

Differences to review

conflict

Is transferring authority easy or hard?

side a
position

Easy. It is not an individual-level respect thing; two handlers is enough to make the transfer straightforward, and a dog run through the protocol with several people ends up taking cues from kennel staff who are not trainers at all.

it's not like people always think that the authority is just an individual level respect thing and it's not it's very easily generalized and transferable to people

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Bo is capable of listening to more than one person, including people that he hasn't worked with, so like kennel staff, and that he's just fine to go in and out of the crate and be totally normal and be boarded like a normal dog.

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side b
position

Hard, and only to people who will do what you did. It does not generalise to the family automatically, the whole go-home lesson exists because it does not arrive with the dog, and a handler who uses a different word or will not follow through gets nothing.

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the best thing that we can do is be like, "Hey, like you can tell him these are the commands he knows. Um, and this is how I follow through with it typically. Maybe they don't want to do it that way.

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note

Both are stated by the business, about different dogs, in different months, and both are argued from evidence. The reconciliation implied but never said is that the mechanism transfers and the relationship does not - that a new handler who reinforces gets authority quickly, and a new handler who does not gets none at all. Nobody says it, and the two claims currently sit in the corpus as a flat contradiction.

conflict

Does every dog distribute across a household?

side a
position

Yes, and the program aims for it deliberately: obedience that belongs to one voice is refused as a goal, because the dogs are going home to more than one person.

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side b
position

No. Some dogs attach to one person and are indifferent or worse to everybody else, and the answer is to build the placement around that rather than to train it away.

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note

The two dogs are different cases - a pet pair going to a family against a bite-history dog being placed - and no session says how you tell in advance which kind is in front of you. That judgement is currently made by the handler who happens to have the dog.

Questions and answers

Question

Will my dog listen to me the way he listens to the trainer?

Not at first, and every trainer in this corpus expects that. The obedience belongs to whoever has been reinforcing it, and the clearest recorded example is a recall that was fine around the handler and dropped a lot the moment the owner walked into the session. What makes it transferable is not charisma but repetition: respect is described as a running total that goes up each time somebody actually enforces something. So the answer is yes, eventually, and the way there is you doing the enforcing - which is exactly what the go-home lesson is for.

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She does, like she respects me more because like I reinforce everything with her. So the thing with respect though is that it's not like a permanent thing. Once you reinforce it, then the authority goes up.

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Question

Why does my dog behave badly around me and perfectly for everyone else?

Because he is answering the person he is paired with in that moment, and because he has learned what works with you specifically. One trainer says it to a dog out loud in front of his family - you act out a lot around your mom, I'm not going to lie to you - and another says the same about his own household: he is a great dog right now, and if my wife were here he probably would not listen. That is pairing rather than defiance. It is also why a good trainer will step out of his own demonstration at the handover, so you can see what the dog does when the person he is used to obeying is not standing there.

You act out a lot around your mom. I'm not going to lie to you.

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Okay. This kind of process of it, right? So, what I'm going to have you do cuz he'll catch on to me pretty quick, but I'm I want to see what he does. So, have one of these in one of your hands.

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Question

There are two of us. Who should be giving the commands?

Whoever is holding the leash, and only that person. The rule is asked for by an owner and answered with its failure mode: if the other adult corrects from outside, the dog starts attending to the person who is not holding the leash even when the other one is. A one-off is fine; a pattern is not. The goal stated at the start of one go-home lesson is that both adults know how to handle the dog - which is a different thing from both of them handling him at once.

so anybody who has the leash the respect needs to be whoever is walking them yeah um if it was

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Question

My dog hides behind me when someone else asks him to do something. What do I do?

Nothing, except move. The instruction is precise and it is the opposite of most people's instinct: get out of the way so he cannot use you as a shield, and let the person who gave the command make it non-optional and see it through. Two people, two jobs, and yours is to stop being the exit.

You do nothing except for like kind of like get out of the way so he doesn't hide behind you and Then it's up to the other person that they just have to do like what I did They just have to make it not optional. They have to make sure he does it. That's it.

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Question

Will he listen to a sitter, a groomer or my parents?

Partly, and the honest limit is worth hearing. Authority generalises - one dog in this corpus was deliberately worked with several handlers and then handed to kennel staff who were not trainers, so that he could be boarded normally - but a handler who gives the wrong command, in a different word or another language, will not get the behaviour even though the dog knows it. The two mitigations the trainer offers are a written list of the commands the dog knows with a note on how you follow through, and your own consistency, on the grounds that it gives him some practice everywhere else: some is better than none.

have him go in and out of the crate for them and follow commands with different like skill levels for handlers so not all professional dog trainers

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Question

My dog listens to my partner and not to me. Is that just his personality?

Usually it is the running total rather than the personality. The dog works faster for whichever person means it and routes around the other until the same work goes in from both - and one trainer tells a couple, on camera, that he now knows which of the two is the softer. The behaviour that keeps it going is worth recognising: in one case, with more people around, the dog yelps and gets dramatic and tries to make people feel sorry for her, because historically that made people go away. The fix is not personality, it is you doing the enforcing until the total catches up.

i know who the softy of you two is now though

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is when there's more people around she'll actually yelp and be dramatic and like try to make people feel bad for her because then people would go away and she'd go back to like not yelping

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Question

What if my dog only really likes one of us?

Some dogs are like that, and the corpus treats it as a fact to build around rather than a fault to fix. One dog is described plainly as a one-dog one-person dog who does not like everybody - and the conclusion drawn is not that he should be trained out of it, but that the one person needs to be the right one, with the introduction slowed and the first days built around that person being the source of food, movement and company. If that is your dog, the useful question is who his person is and how the house is arranged around it, not how to spread him more evenly.

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Teaching outline
objective

The handler can move a dog's obedience onto a new person deliberately, test it with somebody who is not a trainer, and hand a household a workable rule for who gives commands.

demonstration

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10:41

what

The theory stated, in the session built to demonstrate it.

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39:52

what

The dog handed to somebody he has not worked for, with the line coached so the test means something.

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11:08

what

The trainer identifying himself as the confound and stepping out of his own demonstration.

drill

Run the same protocol with a second handler, then a third, then with somebody who is not a trainer at all. Coach the new handler on the line rather than on the dog: hold it steady, add no pressure, say nothing extra. Expect the dog to decline the first few cues and let that happen - it is the test working. At the handover, put the equipment in the owner's hand and step back, saying why. Where the owner's marker does not carry, have them say it and back it with your collar, in the room, until it does. Then give the household the rule: whoever holds the leash gives the commands, nobody corrects from outside, and if he hides behind one person, that person moves. Finish by writing down the exact command words for anyone else who will handle the dog. (Bo Ng6cwjwDpJw, C7q24XpAKv8 and gOSrsaz6jTg; Bullet fFsUUi0TYjc; Deuce krFIRaqtr1c and YVW2tMjuBmE; Luna _TVllc3GPIQ; Zeus Ca9jIFIAjNI; Roxy vUgo_X0DxGc and wfSef-M7-vU.)

common mistakes

Testing the transfer only with colleagues, which is what this whole corpus does.

Letting the new handler help with the line, which makes the test prove nothing.

Staying in the frame at handover, so the dog answers you and the owner learns nothing.

Giving the multi-adult household a principle instead of the failure mode.

Practising only from a standing handler, so the posture becomes part of the cue.

Treating a one-person dog as a training failure rather than as a placement constraint.

check question

A dog has worked all program for one trainer and now will not take a cue from the owner at the go-home lesson. Is that a training failure, and what do you do in the room? (Not a failure - authority is a running total and the owner's is at zero. Have the owner give the command and back it with your collar, repeatedly, in that session, until the owner's word carries on its own.)

Common mistakes

mistake

Taking a video of the dog working for the trainer as evidence about your own dog at home. The trainer says it himself: that is great, and if you cannot get her to do it, it does not matter.

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mistake

Correcting the dog from the sidelines while your partner is holding the leash. It splits the authority, and the dog starts attending to whoever is not holding it.

so anybody who has the leash the respect needs to be whoever is walking them yeah um if it was

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mistake

Standing between your dog and the person he is refusing, so he can hide behind you. Your job is to get out of the way and let that person finish it.

You do nothing except for like kind of like get out of the way so he doesn't hide behind you and Then it's up to the other person that they just have to do like what I did They just have to make it not optional. They have to make sure he does it. That's it.

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mistake

Being the soft one and not knowing it. The dog works out which adult means it within days and routes around the other, and the trainer in one case names it to the couple's faces.

i know who the softy of you two is now though

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is when there's more people around she'll actually yelp and be dramatic and like try to make people feel bad for her because then people would go away and she'd go back to like not yelping

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mistake

Handing the dog to a sitter, groomer or relative without the words. The dog knows the command he was taught; a different word, or a different language, gets nothing regardless of who is asking.

the best thing that we can do is be like, "Hey, like you can tell him these are the commands he knows. Um, and this is how I follow through with it typically. Maybe they don't want to do it that way.

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mistake

Reading pairing as disobedience. A dog attached to the person he is with in that moment is not defying the other person; it is the reason the home lesson exists.

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like right now he's a great dog, but if my wife was here, he probably would not listen. That's why we do the home lesson.

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What to notice

signal

Your dog is noticeably better behaved for other people than for you, in your own house.

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signal

There are two adults in the house and the dog clearly answers one of you faster than the other.

i know who the softy of you two is now though

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signal

When a visitor or another family member asks your dog for something, he comes and stands behind you.

You do nothing except for like kind of like get out of the way so he doesn't hide behind you and Then it's up to the other person that they just have to do like what I did They just have to make it not optional. They have to make sure he does it. That's it.

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signal

Your dog makes a fuss - yelping, drama - specifically when there is an audience, and it has historically worked.

is when there's more people around she'll actually yelp and be dramatic and like try to make people feel bad for her because then people would go away and she'd go back to like not yelping

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signal

Your dog will be boarded, or handled by staff at a kennel or a vet, and you do not know whether he takes cues from people he has not met.

Bo is capable of listening to more than one person, including people that he hasn't worked with, so like kennel staff, and that he's just fine to go in and out of the crate and be totally normal and be boarded like a normal dog.

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signal

Your dog attaches hard to one person and is indifferent, or worse, to everybody else in the house.

Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

Trainer notes

Design the transfer rather than asserting it: run the protocol with a second and third handler inside the program, then test with somebody who is not a trainer (Ng6cwjwDpJw 10:41; bO9YfCRLhh4 02:30; C7q24XpAKv8 13:19, 14:20). Make the test valid by coaching the line, not the dog - hold it steady, do not let it pass through your hands, do not let it move - so nothing can be attributed to hidden help (fFsUUi0TYjc 39:20). Remove yourself from your own demonstration at handover; the dog reads you faster than he reads the owner (krFIRaqtr1c 11:08). When the owner's marker turns out not to carry, fix it procedurally in the room: owner says it, your collar backs it, until the owner's word charges (_TVllc3GPIQ 14:14). Multi-adult households: leash-holder gives commands, the other does not correct from outside, and say the failure mode out loud rather than the principle (YVW2tMjuBmE 07:58). Name the soft one if you can see it (A5tEoaHw99Y 48:52), and predict the audience behaviour a soft household will fall for (VRyDgbvW1cg 41:14). Hiding-behind-the-owner protocol: owner does nothing but move; the person who gave the command finishes it (Ca9jIFIAjNI 13:06). Vary posture as well as person - practise from a seated handler, because standing can become part of the cue (vUgo_X0DxGc 10:30). Do not try to own your own dog on a two-handler session; treat the other dog answering you as the goal (vUgo_X0DxGc 06:22). Third-party handlers: give the family a written command list with your follow-through described, and tell them their own consistency is the real mitigation (gOSrsaz6jTg 08:38, 08:52). One-person dogs exist; identify them and build the placement around the person rather than training the preference away (T-ZBAEouNPg 14:01). Handler-specific reactivity is an operational problem - assign who moves which dog (rT3arHyGbwA 14:43). What is missing and should be added to the record: no transfer test with an actual client family anywhere in this corpus.

By trainer
trainer

Kelton

how they teach it

Uses his own household as the worked example rather than the client's, which removes the sting: the dog in front of them is great right now and would probably not listen if his wife were there, and that is the reason the home lesson exists.

like right now he's a great dog, but if my wife was here, he probably would not listen. That's why we do the home lesson.

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Equipment context
tool

The long line, held by the new handler

how used

The instrument of the transfer test. The new person holds it steady and adds nothing, so the dog's response can be attributed to the command rather than to help coming down the leash.

Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

tool

The e-collar, used to charge the owner's voice

how used

At handover, when the owner's marker turns out to carry no weight, the owner says the word and the trainer's collar backs it - so the owner's voice accumulates the same history the trainer's has.

Source withheld by the current visibility or collection review.

tool

A written list of the commands the dog knows

how used

The only mitigation offered for handlers the trainer will never meet - a sitter, a groomer, a relative. The list carries the exact words plus a note on how the owner follows through, because a different word gets nothing no matter who says it.

the best thing that we can do is be like, "Hey, like you can tell him these are the commands he knows. Um, and this is how I follow through with it typically. Maybe they don't want to do it that way.

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Settings

bo

Source at 13:19 ↗

place

the boarding kennel, with staff who are not trainers handling the dog

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13:19

King

Source at 32:34 ↗

place

a park with two handlers and two dogs working in the same space

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32:34

Louie

Source at 14:01 ↗

place

the new owner's farm, at Louie's placement

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14:01

Bullet

Source at 39:52 ↗

place

a walk with two helpers, where the dog is handed to a person he has not worked for

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39:52

Owner accounts

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Yeah, I'm not trying to do that. I just want him more disciplined.

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Candidate clips

it's not like people always think that the authority is just an individual level respect thing and it's not it's very easily generalized and transferable to people

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You act out a lot around your mom. I'm not going to lie to you.

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Source withheld by the current visibility or collection review.

She does, like she respects me more because like I reinforce everything with her. So the thing with respect though is that it's not like a permanent thing. Once you reinforce it, then the authority goes up.

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You do nothing except for like kind of like get out of the way so he doesn't hide behind you and Then it's up to the other person that they just have to do like what I did They just have to make it not optional. They have to make sure he does it. That's it.

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Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

Bo is capable of listening to more than one person, including people that he hasn't worked with, so like kennel staff, and that he's just fine to go in and out of the crate and be totally normal and be boarded like a normal dog.

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Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

Source moments

Source at 10:41 ↗

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10:41

chapter label

Authority is not one person's

Source at 02:30 ↗

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02:30

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Generalising to other people

Source at 13:19 ↗

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13:19

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Boarded like a normal dog

Source at 14:20 ↗

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14:20

chapter label

Handlers who are not trainers

Source at 08:38 ↗

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08:38

chapter label

Write down the commands he knows

Source at 08:52 ↗

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08:52

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Some is better than none

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00:49

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His control dropped when she walked in

Source at 10:33 ↗

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10:33

chapter label

You act out around your mom

Source at 11:08 ↗

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11:08

chapter label

The trainer steps out of the demo

Source at 07:58 ↗

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07:58

chapter label

Whoever holds the leash

Source at 50:27 ↗

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50:27

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Respect is not permanent

Source at 48:52 ↗

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48:52

chapter label

I know who the softy is

Source at 41:14 ↗

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41:14

chapter label

She plays to an audience

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Source reference held under the current eligibility review.

Source at 08:06 ↗

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08:06

chapter label

Why the go-home lesson exists

Source at 06:35 ↗

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06:35

chapter label

It won't generalise on its own

Source at 10:30 ↗

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10:30

chapter label

Give the command sitting down

Source at 09:39 ↗

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09:39

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They can't be one-person dogs

Source at 13:06 ↗

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13:06

chapter label

Don't be the hiding place

Source at 32:34 ↗

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32:34

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She knows she's with me

Source at 30:53 ↗

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30:53

chapter label

If my wife were here

Source at 40:08 ↗

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40:08

chapter label

You don't know me

Source at 41:16 ↗

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41:16

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I was questioning it

Source at 14:01 ↗

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14:01

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A one-person dog

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14:43

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Triggered by one person

Case story beats

bo

beat

A dog who fought people trying to get him out of a crate is deliberately worked by two more handlers over a matter of weeks, and then, in April, handed to kennel staff who are not trainers - with the result announced in the only terms the owner cares about: he can be boarded.

it's not like people always think that the authority is just an individual level respect thing and it's not it's very easily generalized and transferable to people

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Bo is capable of listening to more than one person, including people that he hasn't worked with, so like kennel staff, and that he's just fine to go in and out of the crate and be totally normal and be boarded like a normal dog.

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Deuce

beat

At the handover the trainer works out that he is the problem with his own demonstration - the dog will read him - and hands the equipment to the owner so he can watch what the dog does when the person he is used to obeying is standing back.

Okay. This kind of process of it, right? So, what I'm going to have you do cuz he'll catch on to me pretty quick, but I'm I want to see what he does. So, have one of these in one of your hands.

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You act out a lot around your mom. I'm not going to lie to you.

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Bullet

beat

A green dog is handed to a woman he has never worked for. He ignores her - you don't know me - and she says out loud that she was questioning it, right up until he did it.

Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

Questions for intake

Who lives in the house, and which of them will actually give the dog commands? The corpus's whole multi-adult rule turns on this and no intake in it asks for the list.

Which adult does the dog currently listen to most, and which least? The gap is a running total, and knowing which way it already runs tells a trainer where the go-home lesson has to be aimed.

Who else will handle this dog - a sitter, a walker, a groomer, a relative, kennel staff? Whether the dog needs to take cues from strangers changes the program, and in one case the whole outcome was framed as being able to board him normally.

Does anyone in the household speak to the dog in another language, or use different words for the same thing? The honest limit on transfer in this corpus is exactly this: a different word gets nothing, however much authority the person has.

When somebody else asks your dog to do something, what does he do - comply, ignore them, or come to you? The third answer has a specific protocol attached and it is the opposite of what owners do by instinct.

Is your dog attached to one person in particular, and is anyone in the house he avoids or reacts to? One-person dogs and handler-specific reactivity are both recorded here, and both are managed rather than trained away.

How reliable is your dog on each command - for you, and for the other adults in the house separately? Every arc in this cluster found families' cue-reliability ratings contradicted by the film, and a single household-wide rating hides exactly the gap this concept is about.

Still to establish

Every transfer test in this corpus is run with a colleague. Bullet's stranger is a helper on the walk; Bo's non-trainers are kennel staff at the same business. The transfer that a board-and-train actually sells - to a client family, in their own house - is never tested on camera as a test. Luna's handover comes closest, and it is a lesson rather than an experiment.

The corpus states both that authority generalises easily and that it does not generalise to the family automatically. Both are argued from evidence and neither session acknowledges the other. Somebody has to say which claim goes on a page, and under what conditions each holds.

How do you tell a one-person dog in advance? Louie's is identified after the fact, in a placement conversation. Nothing in the intake, the evaluation or the first-week protocol asks the question, and the answer changes where the dog can live.

Nobody follows up on whether Bo's kennel-staff result held. The boarding claim is made in April and the file ends.

The line about knowing which of a couple is the softer is one of the most useful things a trainer says in this corpus and one of the most exposed. Whether it can be published - and whether the family in question would recognise themselves - is Kelton's decision, not a page's.

Deuce's multi-adult rule and Roxy's both-people rule point in slightly different directions: one says the leash-holder owns the authority, the other says the dogs must answer everybody. They are compatible in a session and confusing in a kitchen, and no handover reconciles them.

Source limitations

Speaker identity is unrecoverable in most files here. Kelton is identified in King's cKHKUAETVwU by the Tier 1 note; the speaker at bQYBSs7lRYM 32:34 is identified there as his wife. Everything else is a role rather than a name.

Louie's rT3arHyGbwA quote at 14:43 is auto-captioned cross-talk between two handlers about a different dog, in a file where names are unstable within seconds. The Tier 2 arc proposes it on the pattern rather than on the wording, and it is used here the same way.

Deuce's krFIRaqtr1c ends with the camera dying, per its own title; the quotes used here are from before that point.

Deuce's ZavlRRYV-9s and krFIRaqtr1c share a line with one word different ('to me' against 'with me'). Neither version is used in this synthesis.

Luna's _TVllc3GPIQ transcribes 'heeling' as 'healing' at 16:48. The quote is reproduced as the track has it.

Bo's four sessions span February to April and belong to an earlier block than most of this corpus; his file is also the one where the trainer's own vocabulary and the owner's questions are recorded most fully, which may make it look more systematic than the rest.

Deuce's YVW2tMjuBmE quote at 07:58 begins and ends mid-sentence, as the cue does.

Connected library collections

These links follow eligible video assignments in the reviewed library. A source can feature more than one animal; the older research-folder name is not used to merge identities.

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