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When the e-collar seems not to work, the strap is the first suspect and the dog is the last - two flat fingers under it, contacts seated against skin, and only then think about the level.
Answer
Almost always, because it is not reaching the skin. A remote collar that is a little loose, or whose contact points are sitting in fur, delivers nothing at all - and there is no way to tell that from the remote in your hand. What you see instead is a dog who ignores you, which looks exactly like a dog who was never trained. One of the trainers has driven an hour to a client's house for a dog that had supposedly forgotten everything, put the collar on properly, and had the dog do every command: "i drove like an hour out to just tighten it."
So the order is fit, then level, never the other way round. Two flat fingers should go under the strap and you should not be able to twist them. Too loose and the contact is weak; too tight and you are choking the dog and teaching it to hate the collar going on. On a thick coat, feel is not a reliable test at all - push the hair up, seat the contact points against skin, let the hair fall back over, and then confirm from the dog that it landed. Check it again mid-session, because straps work loose and collars spin, and reps taken on a loose collar were never really taken.
The specific mistake being guarded against is turning the dial up against a loose collar. You get no response, you raise the number, you raise it again, and then the collar finally seats itself and the dog gets the whole thing at once. One trainer describes exactly that going wrong: "if you think they're not feeling it, you end up turning it up higher. And then they do feel it cuz they turn their head and then you have a big problem." Another gives the arithmetic: a dog that sits on a 15 when the collar is fitted right will have you asking why you are on 40 when it is loose, and then screaming at 40 the day you get it right.
Two more things that are hardware, not training: the collar goes on the side away from the one you walk the dog on, so the sensation pushes the dog toward you rather than away; and a flat battery does exactly what a loose strap does.
(Inferred, not said on film: this is the cheapest and most repeatable piece of craft in the whole corpus, and it is the reason several dogs in these files were briefly described as stubborn.)
Owner takeaway
Before every session: charge it, put it on high on the neck and on the opposite side from the one you walk on, and check that two flat fingers slide under the strap but will not twist. If the dog has a thick coat, push the hair up so the contact points touch skin and let the hair fall back down over the collar. Press once on a command you know the dog has, and confirm from the dog that it arrived. If nothing happens, tighten before you touch the dial - and check it again halfway through the walk, because it creeps.
Across the cases
luna
The best case in the corpus for this rule, because of her coat. On a heavy husky double coat the collar can feel properly tight and still never touch skin, and the trainer works it out live: he has already tightened it once, it still did not register, and he says out loud that his hands are lying to him. Later in the program the same failure shows up as a number instead of a silence - her level reads about twice its usual figure with no extra distraction to explain it, and the cause is named as a strap. A third instance is the side: he notices mid-session that the collar is on the wrong side of her neck and says that is what has been making the heel hard to reinforce. And the owner-facing version is the best-documented in these files, because this family had actually read the manual: two fingers, and the field story of walking into a house where the dog 'was never trained', tightening the strap and watching every command come back.
trying to find what her resting level is right now she does have that really thick coat though
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I know, it's just you have that husky thickness to you.
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too high good job Luna yeah I must have it like one like not prongs or just one like part two loose because you call it sitting like twice as high as it usually does for her and she's not heavily distracted
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Oh, all right, so I actually have mentioned this before. When you have the e-collar, I have it on the wrong side, which makes reinforcing this really tricky, how dogs respond to the e-collar.
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stormie
Three versions of the rule, and the most honest instance in the corpus. Mid-session at a park the collar has worked loose and the trainer stops dead to ask what happened - which retrospectively invalidates the reps he has just been reading, including the judgement he had made about her level, and he does not pretend to know which ones were real. Between dogs the collar is reset for the dog in front of him rather than left where the last dog needed it: he had been working a bodybuilder bully, so the level comes down before Stormie's first repetition. And in the handover the fit is taught as a level in its own right, with the two-way failure - choke the dog if it is too tight, nothing at all if it is too loose - plus the side rule and the escalation spiral it prevents. The same lesson carries the story of the accident that made him careful: an unlocked remote in a pocket, a small dog, and a whine.
that's the e-collar stronger right now or it's actually on her properly so i'm gonna see what she does stormy down
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it's too tight you choke out the dog which is not like a preferred way to keep it on them um but if it's too loose it won't do anything
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Yeah, it was a little higher than I thought it was. But no, she's she's she's whining cuz she doesn't want to do it cuz she hates it.
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King
The thick-coat case, and the most King-specific handling in his file. The coat can make the collar silently useless and the handler will not know - "it can trick you" - so the technique is taught as three movements: ruffle and push the hair up, seat the contact points against the skin, let the hair fall back down over the collar. When he does not respond, the trainer names two hypotheses and tests them rather than turning the dial: tougher than I thought, or too loose. Once fixed, he confirms it from the dog rather than from the remote. And in another session the work simply stops when the collar stops working, because a dog that should be responding and is not means the equipment is wrong - and he re-checks it twice more after fixing it.
Yeah, so you can just stick it. It's electric, so you just gotta make a touch.
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King, sit, sit, good, smart boy, sit, okay, now it's functioning
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Okay, he felt that one.
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Dutchess
The field-failure version, told to the owners with the receipt attached: he has driven an hour to a client's house because the training had stopped working, and fixed it by tightening a strap. Inside her own file the same fault costs five minutes of her very first recorded lesson, is the reason a borrowed handler swaps her pink collar for the red one, and is caught live three weeks later at the start of what he is running as a dress rehearsal for the handover. The owner-facing test is the twist: two fingers is right, but if you can turn them, it is too loose.
But if I can twist it like that, then it's too loose.
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No, your collar's not on tight enough. All right. Well, oh yeah, that was way too loose. We'll try this again.
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She has her pink one on but the red is lower. It's better for training. The pink ones way like to just a little loose
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there's a lot of weird things that like you don't know how to put it on right you'll hit the bottom of the dog would just be like i don't care and it doesn't work and you're like you broke my dog
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Louie
Caught three separate times in one case, which is what makes it a rule rather than an anecdote. Too loose at the very first meeting, before anyone knew him. Spun mid-session at the park, so some repetitions were felt and some were not - and the handler says so rather than reading the misses as refusals. And at the placement, unresponsive until it was tightened, with the instruction given in the right order: she did not feel the first few, so tighten, do not raise. This is the hardware version of a false rep - a repetition the dog never felt looks identical to one the dog ignored.
but see if he lets me adjust his collar.
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might be on just slightly too loose because i could tell that he felt it a couple of the times but it spun around and I think he was not feeling it like he should have
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Lola
The fullest owner-facing version anywhere, delivered at the go-home lesson with all three hardware rules together and the failure modes on both sides. Two fingers under the strap and no twist. Too tight and you build an aversion to the collar going on at all - the necklace analogy. Too loose and you start a level-inflation spiral that ends with a dog screaming at 40 the day you finally fit it right. The contact goes on the side opposite the one you walk on, because the dog moves away from the sensation and you want that movement to bring her toward you. And the goldendoodle story sits underneath the whole thing: the first thing to check when a trained dog stops listening is the hardware, and in that case the owner had simply bought a collar that could not be tightened.
I want her to be closer to me and she feels a zap this way. What's the reaction? It's the push that way versus if it's here and you want her to come closer. It'll actually encourage her to come into your direction.
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it's just like one of those like little things that I didn't even think about until somebody brought it out to me one day and it makes your life way easier
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Sage
Sage's own arc does not carry this concept, but the group session she is in records the rule at its sharpest, taught on another dog: a collar that is barely on produces the exact appearance of a dog who does not feel it, and the handler who raises the level instead gets a head-turn and a problem. The second trainer's reply is the shortest statement of the rule in the corpus - that is always the first check.
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yep that's always the first check good job
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Dolce
A protection dog on a public walk, and the only place where fit is narrated to camera as part of the method rather than because something failed. The criterion is two-sided in one sentence - the contact points have to make contact for the whole session, and the dog must not be choked - and the hardware choice follows from it: a buckle plus an elastic centre section, which gives room while keeping contact. He re-checks the tightness after fitting and loosens it slightly.
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Source excerpts
i've actually came out to people's houses like the training's not working i'm like can i see it and i put on the e-collar and it works and i drove like an hour out to just tighten it
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we have like a a rule that we go by and basically if you can fit like two fingers in the e-collar like this, you're good. But if you have like wiggle room like this, it's too loose.
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in general, you could build like an aversive reaction because if every single time I put a necklace on you, I choked you out, you probably would stop asking me to put necklaces on you.
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So I wonder if actually I need to tighten it on more. I've already tightened it on once, but it didn't hit me. So just now I'm like, oh, it probably feels tight, but it's probably not even touching her skin at all.
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Exactly, that way it's over it, because otherwise he probably won't make any contact, he'll press a button and he won't feel it at all. Because it's just hitting hair.
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he's either much tougher with the e-collar than I initially considered, or it's too loose
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I can tell you are not responding to the e-collar at all you should be there's not make sense
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that is way looser than when i put it on earlier what what happened
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so sometimes it's loose sometimes it's tighter but not quite there um what happens is like you got to turn it up a ton for them to feel anything and then you put on a little tighter the next day and it's at the same level and the dog's like oh my god this is so high
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it's too tight you choke out the dog which is not like a preferred way to keep it on them um but if it's too loose it won't do anything
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important thing about putting on the e-collar is whatever side you're gonna that you walk the dog on it needs to be on the opposite side
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the big one, too, is whatever side you walk the dog on, this is important. Make sure it's on the opposite side.
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Oh, all right, so I actually have mentioned this before. When you have the e-collar, I have it on the wrong side, which makes reinforcing this really tricky, how dogs respond to the e-collar.
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yep that's always the first check good job
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It definitely needs to be tighter than it was. It was super loose. It needs to be tighter in order for it to function properly.
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two wiener dogs I was working with and we were using the old type of e-collar back then and I put it in my pocket and I forgot to hit the lock button and so it cranked it all the way up to high and I hit the button and the wiener dog was like and I was like why are you whining and I looked at I was like oh I had it on high right so that I felt really bad about that and like ever since since then I've been like really careful.
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How the trainers explain it
Said on film: the collar works by contact, so the contact points have to be touching skin for the whole session, not just when you put it on. A strap that will twist has enough slack for the points to sit in coat or lift off the neck, and then pressing the button delivers nothing while the remote reports success. The handler has no feedback channel except the dog, which is why the response is the only honest test of fit - and why feel is explicitly not trusted on a heavy coat, where a collar that feels tight may still be sitting entirely in fur.
From there the failure compounds. No response reads as a dog who does not care, so the handler raises the level; the collar seats itself at some point - the dog moves, the strap settles, someone tightens it the next day - and the accumulated number arrives at once. That is the mechanism by which a fitting mistake turns into a welfare problem, and it is stated with the arithmetic attached: right fit, 15; loose, you are asking why you are on 40; tight again, and she is screaming at 40.
The side rule has its own mechanism, stated the same way in three files: a dog moves away from the sensation, so a contact point on the near side of the neck pushes her away from the handler and a contact point on the far side pushes her in. For a heel, that is the difference between the tool helping and the tool fighting you.
Inferred, not stated: the reason this matters more than any other piece of craft here is that its failure is invisible and its symptom is a moral judgement about the dog. Nothing else in this corpus turns a hardware fault into the word 'stubborn' quite so directly.
Differences to review
Two fingers, or tighter than that? The published rule is two flat fingers with no twist. On a heavy double coat the same trainer tightens past what feels right and says so, because the collar felt tight and was not touching skin. These read as opposites and are not, and the record says how they are reconciled: the fit standard is two fingers, but the test is the dog's response, not the handler's hands. On a thick coat you keep going until the dog confirms it.
we have like a a rule that we go by and basically if you can fit like two fingers in the e-collar like this, you're good. But if you have like wiggle room like this, it's too loose.
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So I wonder if actually I need to tighten it on more. I've already tightened it on once, but it didn't hit me. So just now I'm like, oh, it probably feels tight, but it's probably not even touching her skin at all.
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Whether the side rule is doctrine or a tip. It is taught as a firm rule at two handovers - 'this is important', 'it needs to be on the opposite side' - and in a third file the same handler describes it as a small thing somebody passed on to him one day that he had never thought about. Nothing contradicts the rule itself; what is unsettled is whether it is written down anywhere or travels by word of mouth.
the big one, too, is whatever side you walk the dog on, this is important. Make sure it's on the opposite side.
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it's just like one of those like little things that I didn't even think about until somebody brought it out to me one day and it makes your life way easier
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Questions and answers
How tight should the e-collar actually be?
Two flat fingers should slide under the strap, and you should not be able to twist them. That is the house rule and it is also what the manufacturers' manuals say. If it is looser than that the contact points will not reach skin reliably; if it is much tighter you are choking the dog, and dogs who get choked every time the collar goes on stop wanting the collar to go on.
we have like a a rule that we go by and basically if you can fit like two fingers in the e-collar like this, you're good. But if you have like wiggle room like this, it's too loose.
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But if I can twist it like that, then it's too loose.
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My dog has a really thick coat. Is it even reaching him?
Maybe not, and you cannot tell by feel. On a heavy or double coat the collar can feel perfectly snug with the contact points sitting entirely in fur. Push the hair up, seat the points against the skin, then let the hair fall back down over the collar - and confirm from the dog that the first press arrived. Expect the working number on a thick-coated dog to look high to you; that is the coat, not the dog.
Exactly, that way it's over it, because otherwise he probably won't make any contact, he'll press a button and he won't feel it at all. Because it's just hitting hair.
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Which side of the neck does it go on?
The side away from you - opposite the side you walk the dog on. The reason is directional: a dog moves away from the sensation, so a contact on the far side of the neck nudges her into your leg, which is exactly what a heel wants, while a contact on the near side pushes her out and away from you. One handler caught himself mid-session with it on the wrong side and named that as why the heel had been hard to reinforce.
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Oh, all right, so I actually have mentioned this before. When you have the e-collar, I have it on the wrong side, which makes reinforcing this really tricky, how dogs respond to the e-collar.
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My dog was trained and now he ignores the collar completely. Did the training not take?
Check the hardware before you believe that. This exact call is described twice in these files, once with a forty-five-minute drive and once with an hour's - and both times the fix was the strap or the collar itself, not the dog. The pattern to watch for is a whole command set failing at once, which is what a hardware fault looks like and is not what forgetting looks like. Charge it, fit it properly, and test one command you are certain of.
i've actually came out to people's houses like the training's not working i'm like can i see it and i put on the e-collar and it works and i drove like an hour out to just tighten it
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I can tell you are not responding to the e-collar at all you should be there's not make sense
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Do I need to check it again during the walk?
Yes. Straps work loose and the box spins round the neck, and when that happens some of your repetitions simply never arrive - which looks identical to a dog choosing to ignore you. Two handlers catch it live in these files and both stop rather than carry on interpreting the dog. If a session starts going badly for no reason, that is the first thing to touch.
that is way looser than when i put it on earlier what what happened
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might be on just slightly too loose because i could tell that he felt it a couple of the times but it spun around and I think he was not feeling it like he should have
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Teaching outline
The handler treats a non-response as a hardware diagnosis with a fixed order of checks, and can fit and verify a collar on a thick-coated dog without touching the level.
King
04:11
04:45
Two hypotheses named out loud for a non-responding collar - tougher than I thought, or too loose - then the fix, then confirmation taken from the dog on a known command.
Lola
07:00
08:40
The complete owner-facing fitting lesson: aversion if too tight, level inflation if too loose, two fingers with no twist, and the side rule with its mechanism.
stormie
09:00
09:35
A trainer discovering mid-session that the dog he had been reading as resistant may not have been feeling anything, and saying so on camera.
As run on film: charge and switch on. Fit the collar high on the neck, opposite the walking side, and check two fingers under the strap with no twist. On a coated dog, ruffle the hair up, seat the contacts, let it fall back. Set a low level - about 20 on Louie's session - press once on a command the dog owns, and watch the head. No response: tighten, do not raise, and press again. Confirm aloud that the dog felt it before any real work starts, then re-check the strap once mid-session.
Reaching for the dial before the strap.
Trusting the feel of the collar on a thick coat instead of the dog's response.
Fitting it once and never checking again.
Fitting it on the walking side, so every stim pushes the dog away from the handler.
Continuing to interpret the dog's behaviour after finding a loose collar, instead of discarding those repetitions.
Leaving the last dog's level on the remote.
You press and get nothing. Name the checks you make, in order, before you are allowed to touch the level - and say what you do with the last ten repetitions if the strap turns out to have been loose.
Common mistakes
Not reading the manual, fitting the collar loose, and concluding the training failed.
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Raising the level because the dog did not react, instead of tightening the strap.
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Overtightening, which chokes the dog and builds an aversion to the collar going on at all.
in general, you could build like an aversive reaction because if every single time I put a necklace on you, I choked you out, you probably would stop asking me to put necklaces on you.
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it's too tight you choke out the dog which is not like a preferred way to keep it on them um but if it's too loose it won't do anything
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Buying a collar that cannot be tightened enough for the dog you have.
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Fitting it once at the start of the walk and never checking it again.
that is way looser than when i put it on earlier what what happened
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might be on just slightly too loose because i could tell that he felt it a couple of the times but it spun around and I think he was not feeling it like he should have
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Putting the box on the same side of the neck as the side you walk the dog on, so every stim pushes the dog away from you.
I want her to be closer to me and she feels a zap this way. What's the reaction? It's the push that way versus if it's here and you want her to come closer. It'll actually encourage her to come into your direction.
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What to notice
Your trained dog came home and seems to have forgotten everything at once.
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do you have your e-collar yes cool okay so i'm gonna show you how to set it up properly because i think we talked about i was going to show you how to put it on correctly too yeah there's a lot of weird things that like you don't know how to put it on right you'll hit the bottom of the dog would just be like i don't care and it doesn't work and you're like you broke my dog
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The number you need seems to have doubled overnight without the dog changing.
too high good job Luna yeah I must have it like one like not prongs or just one like part two loose because you call it sitting like twice as high as it usually does for her and she's not heavily distracted
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Your dog has a double coat, and the collar feels tight but does nothing.
So I wonder if actually I need to tighten it on more. I've already tightened it on once, but it didn't hit me. So just now I'm like, oh, it probably feels tight, but it's probably not even touching her skin at all.
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Some repetitions in a walk land and others do not, for no reason you can see.
might be on just slightly too loose because i could tell that he felt it a couple of the times but it spun around and I think he was not feeling it like he should have
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that is way looser than when i put it on earlier what what happened
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Your dog has started backing away or getting difficult when the collar comes out.
in general, you could build like an aversive reaction because if every single time I put a necklace on you, I choked you out, you probably would stop asking me to put necklaces on you.
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Trainer notes
Order of checks on a non-responding collar: strap tension, contact through coat, battery, side, pairing, then level. Confirm from the dog on a command it owns before restarting the work.
The bit handlers skip is the invalidation. When a loose collar is found mid-session, the repetitions taken on it are uninterpretable, including any level judgement made from them. One handler does this correctly on camera and does not pretend to know which reps were real. Discard, re-fit, re-establish the level, and note it.
A collar must be reset for the dog in front of you, not left where the last dog needed it. The recorded near-miss is a remote left unlocked in a pocket that cranked to high on a small dog; the handler says that is why he has been careful ever since.
On coated dogs the working number will look alarming to anyone reading the file later - 75 on King - and the reason belongs next to the number. Record coat as the cause, and record the collar model, because the same figure on a Micro Educator is about 30% weaker.
Side rule: box opposite the walking side. It is taught as doctrine in two handovers and described elsewhere as a tip somebody passed on; either way it is checkable in three seconds and it changes how the heel reinforces.
Two-sided fit criterion in one sentence, worth teaching verbatim: contact points in contact the whole time, without choking the dog. A buckle with an elastic centre section is named as the hardware that makes both possible at once.
By trainer
Connor
Teaches fit at the handover as a level in its own right, with the escalation spiral as the reason: loose, you crank the number; tighter the next day at the same number and the dog is overwhelmed. Gives the two-sided failure in one line - too tight chokes, too loose does nothing - and the side rule with the push-toward-you mechanism. Also resets the collar between dogs as a habit rather than a reaction.
so sometimes it's loose sometimes it's tighter but not quite there um what happens is like you got to turn it up a ton for them to feel anything and then you put on a little tighter the next day and it's at the same level and the dog's like oh my god this is so high
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important thing about putting on the e-collar is whatever side you're gonna that you walk the dog on it needs to be on the opposite side
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Luna's and Dutchess's in-program handler (not named in these transcripts)
Works the diagnosis live and narrates it, including when his own hands are misleading him on a thick coat. Carries the field story as the teaching device - the hour's drive to tighten a strap - and uses it to make the point that a fitting mistake and a training failure are indistinguishable to an owner. Praises an owner for having read the manual, which is how the two-finger rule gets introduced.
So I wonder if actually I need to tighten it on more. I've already tightened it on once, but it didn't hit me. So just now I'm like, oh, it probably feels tight, but it's probably not even touching her skin at all.
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i've actually came out to people's houses like the training's not working i'm like can i see it and i put on the e-collar and it works and i drove like an hour out to just tighten it
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King's handlers (not named in these transcripts)
The coat specialists. Teach the physical technique - hair up, contacts seated, hair back down - and name the trap: a thick coat can trick you into thinking the collar is on. Treat a non-response as a two-hypothesis diagnosis rather than a reason to raise the level, and confirm from the dog before continuing. Stop the session outright when the collar stops working.
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he's either much tougher with the e-collar than I initially considered, or it's too loose
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I can tell you are not responding to the e-collar at all you should be there's not make sense
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Lola's and Archie's go-home trainer (not named in this transcript)
Gives the most complete owner version: the necklace analogy for over-tightening, the 15-to-40 arithmetic for under-tightening, two fingers with no twist as the standard, the side rule with its reason, and the goldendoodle story as the closing argument for checking hardware first. Notably honest about where the side rule came from - somebody told him one day.
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it's just like one of those like little things that I didn't even think about until somebody brought it out to me one day and it makes your life way easier
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The group-session pair working Anna (neither named)
Between them they produce the compressed version of the whole concept: the collar was barely on, that is why she did not feel it, raising the level instead gets you a head-turn and a big problem - and the second voice closes it with the rule itself. It is the clearest evidence that this is house teaching rather than one handler's habit.
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yep that's always the first check good job
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Equipment context
E-collar strap and contact points
Threaded like a belt through the loop, fitted high on the neck on the side opposite the walking side, two flat fingers under it with no twist. Longer contact prongs where the coat is heavy. Re-checked mid-session.
we have like a a rule that we go by and basically if you can fit like two fingers in the e-collar like this, you're good. But if you have like wiggle room like this, it's too loose.
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Yeah, so you can just stick it. It's electric, so you just gotta make a touch.
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A collar with a buckle and an elastic centre section
Named as the hardware that resolves the two-sided fit problem - it keeps the contact points in contact without choking the dog.
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Two collars for the same dog, one better fitted than the other
A borrowed handler swaps the dog's pink collar for the red one specifically because the pink one sits a little loose and the red is better for training.
She has her pink one on but the red is lower. It's better for training. The pink ones way like to just a little loose
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The remote's lock button
Named in the context of the accident that made one trainer careful: an unlocked remote in a pocket wound the level to high on a small dog.
two wiener dogs I was working with and we were using the old type of e-collar back then and I put it in my pocket and I forgot to hit the lock button and so it cranked it all the way up to high and I hit the button and the wiener dog was like and I was like why are you whining and I looked at I was like oh I had it on high right so that I felt really bad about that and like ever since since then I've been like really careful.
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Settings
Dutchess
A client's own house, an hour's drive away, where the fault turned out to be a strap
01:03
Dolce
Downtown Cary park, where fit is narrated to camera as part of the method
02:08
Owner accounts
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Candidate clips
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Source moments
Case story beats
Dutchess
An hour's drive to a client's house because the dog had stopped listening, and the entire fix was tightening a strap - told to the next family as the reason he is about to show them how to put the collar on.
i've actually came out to people's houses like the training's not working i'm like can i see it and i put on the e-collar and it works and i drove like an hour out to just tighten it
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stormie
Mid-session in a park, a trainer stops, finds the collar has worked loose, and has to accept that the reps he had been reading - and the judgement he had just made about her level - were never valid.
that is way looser than when i put it on earlier what what happened
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So it might be locking her up, actually.
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stormie
The accident that made one trainer careful: an unlocked remote in a pocket, wound to high, on two small dogs - and the whine he did not understand until he looked down.
two wiener dogs I was working with and we were using the old type of e-collar back then and I put it in my pocket and I forgot to hit the lock button and so it cranked it all the way up to high and I hit the button and the wiener dog was like and I was like why are you whining and I looked at I was like oh I had it on high right so that I felt really bad about that and like ever since since then I've been like really careful.
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Questions for intake
Which e-collar do you own, by make and model, and do you still have the manual?
How thick is the coat over the neck? Is it a double coat, and when was it last groomed?
Has anyone shown you how to fit it, or did you set it up from the box?
Can you twist the strap when it is on? (Two flat fingers, no twist, is the standard.)
Which side do you walk the dog on? (The box goes on the other one.)
Does your dog back away, duck or get difficult when the collar comes out? (That is an aversion built by over-tightening, and it is fixable.)
Has the collar ever been left on for several hours at a stretch, and in the same position?
Still to establish
Is the side rule written down anywhere in house materials, or does it travel by word of mouth? One handler says it was passed to him in conversation and he had never thought of it.
Is there a written pre-session equipment checklist? The checks appear consistently across handlers, which suggests one exists or should.
Does the client-facing go-home paperwork carry the two-finger rule and the side rule in writing, or only verbally at the lesson?
What is the house instruction on maximum wear time? The only stated injury risk is pressure sores from a tight collar left in one spot for hours, but no hour limit or rotation rule is stated anywhere in these files.
Should the bible record collar model alongside every level, given the 30% difference between units?
Source limitations
Fit and side are demonstrated physically on camera, so several of these quotes are gesture-dependent ('this side', 'like this', 'this way') and read poorly in text. Any page use should pair them with the frame.
Speaker identity is unrecoverable in most of these sessions. Only Connor is named in the transcripts used here; every other 'who' is recorded as unnamed.
QZZDVkQFLeU 02:11 is garbled ('you call it sitting' for 'the e-collar's sitting', 'part two loose' for 'part too loose'). The judgement - the level is doubled because the collar is loose - is unambiguous, but the sentence should not be quoted to a page verbatim without a listen.
3F2ALQ6pFME 08:41 ends garbled; the transcript's fault, not the trainer's.
Two Tier 1 sightings for this concept were set aside during dossier assembly as duplicates; the underlying sessions are represented here.
Thirteen of the twenty-five cited sessions carry a publication date; the range in counts is a floor on the spread, not the whole of it.
Connected library collections
These links follow eligible video assignments in the reviewed library. A source can feature more than one animal; the older research-folder name is not used to merge identities.