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What is place, and what should it mean to my dog?

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Place means all four paws on something raised off the ground - any raised thing - because an edge the dog can feel is a rule he can actually follow, and it must never be somewhere you send him as a punishment.

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Answer

Place is not a piece of furniture, it is a rule about height. Asked by an owner why the equipment list had raised beds on it, the trainer answered in one sentence: it is easier for them to understand when it is off the ground. Anything off the ground will do - a cot, a table, a park bench, a picnic table, a rock on a trail - and what the raise buys you is that the dog can tell without guessing whether he is on it or off it. Put him on a flat mat instead and he cannot: a paw over the edge feels no different from a paw on the mat, so the boundary is vague, and a vague rule cannot be enforced the same way twice by a whole household. On a cot, a foot on the floor is obvious to the dog, which is what makes the penalty for coming off fair rather than arbitrary - it is, in one trainer's words, clear as day to them why they have to go back. The rule itself is a single physical fact, and it is the one instruction in a whole go-home lesson that requires no judgement at all: all four paws on it. Nothing else. He may stand, sit, lie down, turn around; he may hang two paws over the edge; the rule breaks the instant a paw touches the floor. This is also why place is usually the first thing taught. Its boundary is legible in a way a heel's is not, so it is a clean introduction to the whole idea of having to do something. And because every cot feels roughly the same, the dog's job on the word becomes finding that texture, which is what lets the command travel - to a deck, a porch, a campsite, a downtown bench. Buying identical cots is therefore a training decision rather than a comfort purchase. What the place has to mean is fixed as firmly as what it is. A spot the dog has to live with cannot be used as a punishment site: sending a dog to his crate or his bed in anger is ruled out on camera, with the trainer asking for the emphasis himself - we don't do timeout with the dogs in these cases, that's a very very very bad idea. For a nervous dog place is justified the other way round again, as a secure area where he can relax rather than as a stay. And the calm learned there is treated as the point of the exercise rather than a side effect: settling on the cot transfers, and it is how you build a calm house. What is inferred rather than said: nobody on film explains why a consistent surface texture should make a command portable. The trainer asserts that the dog's brain learns to find that texture, and the dogs in this corpus do generalise place to rocks, benches and store fixtures, but the claim is his rather than something the footage demonstrates.

Owner takeaway

Get a raised cot, not a flat mat, and get more than one so they feel the same in every room and travel with you. The rule is all four paws on it and nothing else - any position he likes, two paws may hang over the edge, and it breaks the moment one touches the floor. Say the word, point at it, and if he does not go, take his collar and slide him on. Release with your release word. Never send him there as a punishment, and never use his crate that way either.

Across the cases

Bullet

Bullet's file is where the definition is given, and it is given because an owner asked a purchasing question. Why the raised beds? The answer runs for two minutes and it is the most saleable idea in the corpus: place is defined by being off the ground, so it can be a table, a cot, anything; the cot is recommended because it is light and moves; and the reason it matters is that every cot feels the same, so the dog's job on the word becomes finding that texture and the command travels with it. The trainer's own dogs have one on the deck and one in the house, and a cot goes camping with him. Ten days later the idea is cashed out in public: Bullet is asked for place on a store fixture, takes several cues and a correction to commit, and the messy rep is left in the published video.

Why the raised beds?

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it's gonna be outside and stuff like that too like I have one in outside of one in the house I have one on my deck

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Come. You can do it. All the way up. Good boy. Good boy! Come here, buddy. Good job,

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Zeus

Zeus's second owner lesson contains the fullest statement of the rule anywhere, and it is argued from what the dog can perceive rather than from obedience. A mat will not do, because a paw over the edge does not feel different from a paw on it; a raised thing will, because stepping off is unmistakable. Then the criterion: all four paws on the cot, that is it, that is what the command means - you do not have to add a sit or a down unless you want one. Then the generalisation, with the trainer's own habit as the example: he leaves his dog on a picnic table at a park while he goes to talk to somebody. And then the reason place is taught first, which is the same reason again - its boundary is clear, and heel's is not.

not very clear to him where the boundaries are if he steps his foot off that he knows

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a picnic table relatively frequently like we go out to a park sometimes I'll just like be like hey like place and she'll jump up on the picnic table

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Fight for however long and you can I mean the other nice thing about it is that it's comfortable and there's no rules on the

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King

King's file supplies the sentence that turns the design choice into an ethical one. The cot makes the boundary legible to the dog - four feet on it, or one foot on the ground - and because the dog can see the rule, he can also see why he is being sent back. The fairness of the correction is downstream of the clarity of the criterion, and that is why a cot is equipment rather than furniture. A downtown session then does the portable version without a word of theory: a public bench is treated as a place and the dog is left on it.

so then if they get off the cot then it's like clear as day to them like why they're getting penalized why they have to go back

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So as an example, you can leave him on the bench.

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luna

Luna's go-home lesson gives the rule in the form a family can actually run on a Tuesday evening with a puppy underfoot: the paws cannot touch the ground, she can hold whatever position she likes, she can hang two paws off, and the rule breaks the second they touch down. It is the only instruction in the whole handover that needs no interpretation. The same lesson attaches the duration figures - fifteen to twenty minutes before the dog goes home, twenty to forty as the family's own build - and is honest about why the facility cannot deliver the longer one itself.

so the rule with the place is that the paws can't touch the ground so like she can hold whatever position she wants in there okay as long as four paws are not on the ground so she can hang two paws off but the second they touch the ground she breaks the rules

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those really long times though that's where that that's more of a thing of like you gotta like reinforce it to get it there because honestly with the time that we train the dogs getting a dog to stay on a place for like monitoring them for like 40 minute reps is just like unrealistic in terms of like a work day you know what i mean but

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Dutchess

Dutchess's handover is the second independent statement of the four-paw rule, to a different family by a different handler: she can do whatever she wants, the only rule is that all four paws are not touching the floor. It also supplies the mechanics of getting her there without a leash - say the word, and if she does not go, take the collar and slide her on - and the warning that comes with a transferred command: the dog reads the setup and not only the word, so on the family's own cot, in their own room, the command has to be reinforced a couple of times before it holds.

yeah see she know it good job good girl and then you down she can do whatever she wants the only rule is it's just all all four paws have to be not touching the floor

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so like when i tell people like place one of those things that you do have to like reinforce a couple times i have occasionally been lucky where the dog just did it automatically and i didn't have to carry it over but it's not too common because people have like different cots it's in a different spot it's just you know what i mean it's very like it seems random to dogs

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bo

Bo is where the other half of the concept is stated, and it is the only owner-facing prohibition in this corpus that contradicts standard pet advice outright. Bo's problem is in the crate, so nothing may be allowed to make the crate worse - which rules out the response most owners reach for first. No sending him there as a punishment, no acting as though these places are punishments, no timeout, and the trainer asks for the emphasis himself. What goes there instead is cooperation and reinforced obedience: an area where there is nothing to fight about. Two months later the same idea is applied positively and without being named, when a handler gives him a chair to settle in on purpose so that he experiences chilling there rather than passing through.

instead what we're doing is we're changing that to an area where it's like hey dude like we don't need to fight why are we fighting like there's there's nothing to fight about here everything's cool right

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All right. So then just like, let's come chill in this chair for a minute. Um, because just cause, uh, I want to give him a second to actually like be in there for a minute, but he can feel like he's actually chilling and it's great.

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Finn

For a nervous dog, place is justified by a different reason entirely: it is somewhere to feel safe, not a stay. That single sentence explains why a fear case gets place work at all, which is not what most owners would assume. The same session is careful to say that the simplest command can be the hard one for such a dog - your mileage may vary - and that the handler stepping away is its own criterion, lowered rather than pushed.

I'd probably do some place work too, in between, maybe put in a bus or something like that. Place can be a secure area for them to feel more relaxed and comfortable.

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Sometimes people think that sit for all dogs is just absolutely easy. Your mileage may vary with each dog.

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Louie

Louie's file gives the clearest one-line case in the corpus for place as a household intervention rather than an obedience command: settling on the cot transfers to all kinds of things and is useful for developing calm behaviour in the house. It is said while the trainer is doing exactly that and warning the viewer that the footage will be dull.

But I also just want to have him be able to settle and chill on the place cot cuz that can transfer over to all kinds of things and it's very useful for developing calm behavior in the house.

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stormie

Stormie's folder is the only place in the corpus that shows the product in use rather than in construction. A member of admin and kennel staff - who says in the same file that she is not one of the trainers - records herself sweeping, mopping and vacuuming with a dog parked on the place cot. No cue work, no duration drill, no narration about the three Ds. A fortnight later the owner lesson paints that exact picture in words: place while you walk out of the front door, place while you cook, and the point is that it happens without you having to say something every two seconds.

hello i figured um i'd record while i am cleaning um i have fiona on the place cot right now um

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you know like say let's say you're gonna walk out the front door you know you can tell her place place and she'll go she'll sit there and she'll wait and say you go cook something in the kitchen real quick because you don't want her in the kitchen while you're cooking you know the idea is that that is something that can happen without it being like every two seconds

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duration place evidence

Under protocol rule 13, two more Stormie recordings count as place evidence here without yielding quotes: 7WRHdfqW99w (2026-08-12, thirteen minutes, eleven cues, no cue word audible) and the pair 56wAy4hz35A / FEJo9OMS4tk (2026-08-30, twenty-nine minutes, one recording published twice, titled 'Can Your Dog Hold Place When You Walk Away?'). The Tier 1 notes call the first 'not a session' and the second 'unresolved'; Stormie's arc counts 7WRHdfqW99w and 0N7Qm-UHyyU among recordings containing no training. Under rule 13 they are duration place holds. The 56wAy4hz35A / FEJo9OMS4tk pair also has a title and a roster that disagree about which dog it is, so it is counted once and attributed to no dog.

Sage

Sage shows the word leaving the training room. At one park the place object is a rock; at another, a flat rock. The standard does not move with the surface - all the way up, then release - and the encouragement is the same as it would be on a cot.

rock. Come on. Stay. Place. Up here. Come on. Place. Come on. Up here. Place. Come on.

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Good girlie.

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Roxy

In a two-dog household the cot is given a second job: it defines where the dog who is not being worked belongs, which is what makes name discrimination possible. One dog on the cot, the other worked, every command prefixed with a name, and the dog that breaks put back. The same session is careful not to oversell it - the trainer says he is working on name discrimination and is not promising it.

but i will attempt now to pull one off at a time and work one right and then i will use the place tot as a way to help them to discriminate between who is being called and who's not right by using their name and by using the place tot is where they're supposed to be if they're not being worked with right now

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Source excerpts

Because for place, it's easier for them to understand when it's off the ground.

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So it places anything off the ground.

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so it can be a table it can be a cot it can be anything but we we recommend the cops because they're they're light they're easy to move around and like when I go camping stuff I bring a cop with me and my dogs know like that's the place

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When we say place, then they know like, oh, find that texture too.

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And so like their brains recognize like find that texture so it can move locations where they can still find it.

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the best the reason that it you can place a dog on top of anything as long as it is raised off the ground a little bit because um say i place him on top of this this mat that'll work because it's not very clear to him if he's on the mat or off the mat like if his feet are off on the other end or he stands up and puts his paws out on the floor it doesn't feel really any different it's not very clear to him where the boundaries are

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you can break down something like that don't matter as long as all four paws are on the cot then there's that's it that's that's what the command means um so you don't have to say place and then sit or placing them down unless you want him to do that for some reason

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the difference between being on top of that thing and not being on top of it or you could place him on top of something like this or on a park bench or on a picnic table actually I leave my dog on a picnic table relatively frequently

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Because that's what places for places for like immobilizing them for a minute

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of the reasons that a lot of times one of the first things we do with the dog is teaching place just because it's like a nice intro to like the whole idea of having to do something and it's very clear like if I start with heel heel is harder to make clear right

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so then if they get off the cot then it's like clear as day to them like why they're getting penalized why they have to go back

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So as an example, you can leave him on the bench.

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so the rule with the place is that the paws can't touch the ground so like she can hold whatever position she wants in there okay as long as four paws are not on the ground so she can hang two paws off but the second they touch the ground she breaks the rules

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yeah see she know it good job good girl and then you down she can do whatever she wants the only rule is it's just all all four paws have to be not touching the floor

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so you don't have to have the leash you can really just say like place and just grab the collar and just slide her on and after a couple times she learns like hey that's where you got to go

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Place can be a secure area for them to feel more relaxed and comfortable.

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But I also just want to have him be able to settle and chill on the place cot cuz that can transfer over to all kinds of things and it's very useful for developing calm behavior in the house.

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you know like say let's say you're gonna walk out the front door you know you can tell her place place and she'll go she'll sit there and she'll wait and say you go cook something in the kitchen real quick because you don't want her in the kitchen while you're cooking you know the idea is that that is something that can happen without it being like every two seconds

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hello i figured um i'd record while i am cleaning um i have fiona on the place cot right now um

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but i will attempt now to pull one off at a time and work one right and then i will use the place tot as a way to help them to discriminate between who is being called and who's not right by using their name and by using the place tot is where they're supposed to be if they're not being worked with right now

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rock. Come on. Stay. Place. Up here. Come on. Place. Come on. Up here. Place. Come on.

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Good. I've seen you climb lots of stuff. Place. Ah ah. Bullet, come on, up here. Place. Place.

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How the trainers explain it

The trainers give one mechanism and it is perceptual, not motivational. The dog has to be able to tell, from his own body, whether he is complying. A raised edge supplies that: "if he steps his foot off that he knows the difference between being on top of that thing and not being on top of it" (KKFbjjFvhqU, 86:26). A flat mat does not, because a paw on the floor at the edge "doesn't feel really any different" (KKFbjjFvhqU, 86:20). Everything else follows from it. Because the dog can check the rule, the correction for breaking it reads as intelligible rather than arbitrary - "it's like clear as day to them like why they're getting penalized" (0Ryn-sQhWK0, 39:52). Because the criterion is one physical fact, a whole household can enforce it identically. And because it is taught first, it introduces the idea of having to do something on a command whose boundary is unambiguous, where heel's is "a little bit more gray" (KKFbjjFvhqU, 89:33). The portability claim rests on a second, weaker mechanism: standardise the surface and the dog learns to look for a feel rather than for a thing - "their brains recognize like find that texture" (XRDK3HGF8iM, 26:02). That is the trainer's explanation, not a demonstration. What the footage does show is the outcome: place given and taken on a rock, a store fixture, a park bench, a picnic table and a downtown bench. Whether texture is what carries it, or simply repetition on raised objects, the corpus does not settle. Two further claims are stated and not explained: that a place the dog must live with is spoiled by being used as a punishment site (Ng6cwjwDpJw, 09:56), and that calm on a cot transfers into calm in the house generally (wuhVeWrgwJ8, 02:29).

Differences to review

conflict

Whether place is a containment tool or the destination.

side a
position

Place is what the household runs on: place while you cook, place while the door opens, place while the floor is swept, and a dog parked on a cot while a handler works around her.

you know like say let's say you're gonna walk out the front door you know you can tell her place place and she'll go she'll sit there and she'll wait and say you go cook something in the kitchen real quick because you don't want her in the kitchen while you're cooking you know the idea is that that is something that can happen without it being like every two seconds

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hello i figured um i'd record while i am cleaning um i have fiona on the place cot right now um

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position

Place is deliberately withheld as the household answer, because a dog who is only calm on a cot has not learned to settle, and a dog parked on a cot for seven hours so the house can function is exactly what the owner was trying to escape.

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Which is what you need in the house. That's why I'm gonna teach you how to do so calm Liberty is this You're not in command. I Didn't ask you to sit. I didn't ask you to down. I didn't ask you to place. I didn't actually do anything but you got to be chilled out you can't be you got to be like settled right which is what most people would love to have with their dogs is that they have them in house but they don't have to crate them or put them on place for like seven hours in a row just so that they can like function in the house and have their dog out

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note

Not addressed by anyone on camera. The two positions can be read as a sequence rather than a disagreement - build the calm on the cot, then spend it loose - and Louie's 'that can transfer over to all kinds of things' points that way, but no trainer in this corpus says so, and Roxy's lesson explicitly ranks calm liberty above place as the thing to aim for.

conflict

Whether place requires a position.

side a
position

It does not. Four paws on it is the whole command; he may stand, sit, lie down or turn around, and you only add a sit or a down if you want one for some other reason.

you can break down something like that don't matter as long as all four paws are on the cot then there's that's it that's that's what the command means um so you don't have to say place and then sit or placing them down unless you want him to do that for some reason

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so like she can hold whatever position she wants in there okay as long as four paws are not on the ground

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side b
position

In practice the thing being waited for on a duration hold is a specific position, reached by the dog himself - lying down, and settled. The rep is not complete until it happens.

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note

Both positions come from the same handler on Zeus, in different sessions, and the same is true on Luna. Read together they are probably one idea - the rule is four paws, the training goal is the settle - but nobody states the distinction, and an owner told only the first half will stop the exercise at the wrong moment. See `the-settle-criterion`.

Questions and answers

Question

Do I have to buy a cot, or will his bed do?

The cot is a recommendation; the raise is the requirement. Asked directly, the trainer said place is anything off the ground - a table, a cot, anything - and that the reason a cot is recommended is that it is light and easy to move. What a soft bed on the floor cannot give you is a boundary the dog can feel. On a mat, a paw over the edge feels the same as a paw on it, so the dog genuinely does not know whether he is complying, and neither, consistently, do you. Get something with an edge and a few inches of height, and get more than one so they feel the same in the house, on the porch and in the car.

so it can be a table it can be a cot it can be anything but we we recommend the cops because they're they're light they're easy to move around and like when I go camping stuff I bring a cop with me and my dogs know like that's the place

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the best the reason that it you can place a dog on top of anything as long as it is raised off the ground a little bit because um say i place him on top of this this mat that'll work because it's not very clear to him if he's on the mat or off the mat like if his feet are off on the other end or he stands up and puts his paws out on the floor it doesn't feel really any different it's not very clear to him where the boundaries are

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Question

Does he have to lie down on it?

No. The command is a location, not a posture: all four paws on the thing, and that is the whole of it. He can stand, sit, lie down, turn round, and hang two paws over the edge. It breaks the second a paw touches the floor. You do not need to say place and then sit, or place and then down, unless you want that for some separate reason. One thing to know, because it is easy to confuse: on a long duration hold the trainers are waiting for him to lie down and settle himself, which is a different exercise built on top of this one. The rule is four paws; the goal of a long hold is the settle.

you can break down something like that don't matter as long as all four paws are on the cot then there's that's it that's that's what the command means um so you don't have to say place and then sit or placing them down unless you want him to do that for some reason

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so the rule with the place is that the paws can't touch the ground so like she can hold whatever position she wants in there okay as long as four paws are not on the ground so she can hang two paws off but the second they touch the ground she breaks the rules

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Question

Can I use place away from home, without carrying a cot everywhere?

Yes, and the trainers do it constantly. In this corpus place is given and held on a rock in a park, a flat rock at a second park, a store fixture, a downtown bench and a picnic table. One trainer describes leaving his own dog on a picnic table while he goes to talk to someone or fetch water. The standard does not change with the surface: all the way up, four paws on, then the release. The cot is what makes home consistent; found objects are what make the command useful outside it.

on top of something like this or on a park bench or on a picnic table actually I leave my dog on a picnic table relatively frequently like we go out to a park sometimes I'll just like be like hey like place and she'll jump up on the picnic table

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So as an example, you can leave him on the bench.

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rock. Come on. Stay. Place. Up here. Come on. Place. Come on. Up here. Place. Come on.

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Question

Can I send him to place when he has been naughty?

No, and this is the firmest prohibition in the corpus. Working a dog whose problem was aggression in his crate, the trainer ruled it out and asked for the emphasis himself: you cannot send him to the crate for punishment, you cannot act as though these places are punishments, and timeout is not used in these cases at all. The reasoning is that a place the dog has to live in every day cannot also be where bad things happen to him. What goes there instead is the opposite - cooperation, and obedience reinforced there, so that it becomes somewhere there is nothing to fight about. The same logic protects the cot: it is where he is asked to be calm, so it must not double as where he is sent in anger.

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instead what we're doing is we're changing that to an area where it's like hey dude like we don't need to fight why are we fighting like there's there's nothing to fight about here everything's cool right

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Question

My dog is anxious. Is place going to make that worse?

It is not framed that way on film. For a nervous dog the trainers justify place differently from the way they justify it for a boisterous one: it is a secure area where the dog can be more relaxed and comfortable, not a stay he has to endure. The same session is careful about the rest of it - even a sit can be hard for a dog like this, and when stepping away broke the position the criterion was lowered back rather than pushed. So the exercise is the same and the reason for it is different, and the pacing follows the dog.

Place can be a secure area for them to feel more relaxed and comfortable.

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So he does good with sit when you're next to him, right, when you start walking away that's supposed to be a thing with some dogs, they just are not a fan of the way you step away from them.

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Question

He did place perfectly for the trainer. Why won't he do it at my house?

Because he learned the whole picture and not just the word. Different cot, different room, different corner - the trainers say it looks random to dogs, and that place is one of the commands you should expect to have to reinforce a couple of times at home. The fix is mechanical rather than remedial: say the word, point at the cot, and if he does not go, take his collar and slide him onto it. After a few of those he learns that this cot, here, is the thing the word means. Place is also the one command where the trainers keep the pointing gesture on purpose, rather than fading it out as they do everywhere else.

so like when i tell people like place one of those things that you do have to like reinforce a couple times i have occasionally been lucky where the dog just did it automatically and i didn't have to carry it over but it's not too common because people have like different cots it's in a different spot it's just you know what i mean it's very like it seems random to dogs

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so you don't have to have the leash you can really just say like place and just grab the collar and just slide her on and after a couple times she learns like hey that's where you got to go

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usually those are like visual aids that that we don't use um most of the time when you start training if i'm like teaching a dog to go into a down i'll do this thing where i'm like down i like point down and everything it's part of the training process you don't want to keep it because you want it to be 100 verbal but for the place command you do point for that because it does like

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Teaching outline
objective

The handler can state what place means in one physical criterion, choose or improvise a legal place object anywhere, and transfer the command onto a new surface without re-teaching it.

demonstration

Source at 24:44 ↗

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24:44

what

The definition given to owners, from the question 'Why the raised beds?' through to the texture claim.

Source at 85:58 ↗

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85:58

what

The mat-versus-cot argument, with the mat in shot, and the four-paw criterion stated straight after it.

Source at 04:20 ↗

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04:20

what

The word taken to a rock in a park with no change of standard.

drill

Pick something raised with an edge - a cot, a bench, a picnic table, a large flat rock. Say the word once and point. If he does not go, take the collar and slide him on; no leash is needed. The criterion is all four paws on it: any posture, two paws may hang over, one paw on the floor breaks it. Mark a break and put him straight back. Release with the release word and praise. Then do the same thing on a different object, in a different place, the same day if you can, and keep the standard identical. (Bullet XRDK3HGF8iM; Zeus KKFbjjFvhqU; Dutchess 9M2Q54KbWTU; Sage -1GPj5Wkh2A; King TSAhfop47G4.)

common mistakes

Using a flat mat, which makes the boundary unenforceable.

Stacking a position on top of the command and then correcting the dog for standing up.

Fading the pointing gesture, which for place is kept deliberately (9M2Q54KbWTU 19:58).

Assuming the command transfers to a new cot in a new room without reinforcement.

Letting the cot become the place the dog is sent when somebody is annoyed with him.

Treating the cot as the finished product rather than as where the calm is built (see the conflict above, and `four-windows`).

check question

The dog is on the cot, standing up, turned around, with one back paw hanging over the edge and none on the floor. Is he in place? (Yes. Four paws on the cot is the whole criterion; hanging over the edge is explicitly allowed.)

Common mistakes

mistake

Buying a flat mat or a soft bed instead of something raised, which leaves the rule vague and the enforcement inconsistent.

it's not very clear to him if he's on the mat or off the mat like if his feet are off on the other end or he stands up and puts his paws out on the floor it doesn't feel really any different it's

Watch at 86:14 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
mistake

Sending the dog to his crate or his bed as a punishment, or using timeout at all in a case where the crate is the problem.

Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

mistake

Expecting the command to arrive intact on the family's own cot in the family's own room. It usually has to be reinforced a couple of times, because the dog read the whole setup and not only the word.

so like when i tell people like place one of those things that you do have to like reinforce a couple times i have occasionally been lucky where the dog just did it automatically and i didn't have to carry it over but it's not too common because people have like different cots it's in a different spot it's just you know what i mean it's very like it seems random to dogs

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mistake

Adding a position to the command - place, then sit, then down - and correcting the dog for standing up, when the rule was never about posture.

are on the cot then there's that's it that's that's what the command means um so you don't have to say place and then sit or placing them down unless you want him to do that for some reason

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mistake

Buying one cot. The portability the command depends on comes from having several that feel the same, in the house, on the porch, and in the car.

it's gonna be outside and stuff like that too like I have one in outside of one in the house I have one on my deck

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What to notice

signal

You are looking at dog beds and cannot work out why a trainer's list asks for a raised one.

Why the raised beds?

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signal

He lies on his mat but drifts a paw or a shoulder off it and you cannot decide whether that counts.

it's not very clear to him if he's on the mat or off the mat like if his feet are off on the other end or he stands up and puts his paws out on the floor it doesn't feel really any different it's

Watch at 86:14 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
signal

He knew place at the trainer's and appears to have forgotten it in your house.

people have like different cots it's in a different spot it's just you know what i mean it's very like it seems random to dogs

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signal

Your instinct when he does something wrong is to send him to his crate or his bed.

Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

signal

You cannot cook, sweep or answer the front door without the dog in the middle of it.

you know like say let's say you're gonna walk out the front door you know you can tell her place place and she'll go she'll sit there and she'll wait and say you go cook something in the kitchen real quick because you don't want her in the kitchen while you're cooking you know the idea is that that is something that can happen without it being like every two seconds

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signal

You have two dogs and cannot give one of them a command without the other one doing it.

Quotation held: text matches, but timestamp or full-span transcript confidence still needs review.

Trainer notes

Criterion: all four paws on a raised object. Position-free by design; add a sit or a down only if you want one for a separate reason (KKFbjjFvhqU 87:32). Two paws may hang over the edge; one paw on the floor breaks it (trspGmYuPAw 33:30). Object selection: anything raised a few inches with a perceptible edge. Cot preferred for weight and portability; mat rejected explicitly because the boundary is not perceptible. Verified in the corpus on cots, a store fixture, a park rock, a flat rock, a downtown bench and a picnic table. Sequencing: place is taught first because its boundary is legible where heel's is grey (KKFbjjFvhqU 89:19) - so it is the cleanest introduction to the idea of a command with a duration. Transfer: expect to reinforce a couple of times on the owner's cot; the dog read the setup, not just the word (9M2Q54KbWTU 19:08). Keep the point for place; fade visual aids everywhere else (9M2Q54KbWTU 19:58). Breaks: marker, and at go-home stage the collar for a paw on the floor; Zeus's file adds the iPad principle - a repeat offence soon after the first gets more than the first did (KKFbjjFvhqU 88:30). Prohibitions: never a punishment site, never timeout, and especially not the crate in a crate case (Ng6cwjwDpJw 09:56). Nervous dogs: sell it internally as a secure area rather than a stay, and treat the handler stepping away as its own criterion (ONotm6SpJug 05:55, 03:25). Two-dog households: the cot defines where the unworked dog belongs and is what makes name discrimination trainable (KWSsGRPiP8A 01:57). Duration figures, from one lesson only: about 15-20 minutes before go-home, 20-40 left to the family, with the honest reason that 40-minute monitored reps are unrealistic inside a working day (trspGmYuPAw 42:34, 43:13). Note that the same trainer says he does not train place much any more because dedicated staff run place drills all day - which is what the long near-silent recordings in this corpus are.

Equipment context
tool

Raised cot

how used

The standard place object. Chosen for the perceptible edge, for being light enough to move between rooms and to travel, and for being the same texture everywhere so the dog learns to find the feel. Trainers keep several - house, deck, outside, truck.

so it can be a table it can be a cot it can be anything but we we recommend the cops because they're they're light they're easy to move around and like when I go camping stuff I bring a cop with me and my dogs know like that's the place

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it's gonna be outside and stuff like that too like I have one in outside of one in the house I have one on my deck

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tool

Flat mat

how used

Rejected on camera, with the reason. A mat works as an object but not as a rule, because the dog cannot feel the boundary.

the ground a little bit because um say i place him on top of this this mat that'll work because

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tool

Found objects - park bench, picnic table, rock, store fixture

how used

Used as places with the same standard, deliberately, to make the command portable.

on top of something like this or on a park bench or on a picnic table actually I leave my dog on a picnic table relatively frequently like we go out to a park sometimes I'll just like be like hey like place and she'll jump up on the picnic table

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Good. I've seen you climb lots of stuff. Place. Ah ah. Bullet, come on, up here. Place. Place.

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tool

Flat collar

how used

For getting the dog onto the cot when the word alone does not do it - take the collar and slide her on, no leash required.

so you don't have to have the leash you can really just say like place and just grab the collar and just slide her on and after a couple times she learns like hey that's where you got to go

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tool

Crate

how used

Named as a place the rule protects rather than a training tool: it cannot be used as a punishment site, and in a crate case nothing may be allowed to make it worse.

Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

Settings

Sage

Source at 04:20 ↗

place

a park, where the place object is a rock

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04:20

Bullet

Source at 01:07 ↗

place

Ross, a clothing store

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01:07

Bullet

Source at 24:44 ↗

place

a park, during a handover conversation with the owners

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24:44

King

Source at 09:04 ↗

place

downtown, on a public bench

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09:04

Zeus

Source at 86:43 ↗

place

a park with a picnic table, as the trainer's own habit

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86:43

stormie

Source at 00:01 ↗

place

the facility's kennel room, while the floor is being cleaned

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00:01

luna

Source at 33:20 ↗

place

the owners' own home, transferring place onto the family's cot

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33:20

Owner accounts

Why the raised beds?

Watch at 24:44 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

yeah and that's concrete yeah and i kind of figured it was because of the cooling but i didn't even think about the fact that that would be a designated place that he could see and he knows that's where he needs to go

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So you said when she's in the area where she's placed, that's after she's already been doing things, or is that...

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Candidate clips

Why the raised beds?

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say i place him on top of this this mat that'll work because it's not very clear to him if he's on the mat or off the mat like if his feet are off on the other end or he stands up and puts his paws out on the floor it doesn't feel really any different it's not very clear to him where the boundaries are

Watch at 86:05 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

Quotation held: text matches, but timestamp or full-span transcript confidence still needs review.

so the rule with the place is that the paws can't touch the ground so like she can hold whatever position she wants in there okay as long as four paws are not on the ground so she can hang two paws off but the second they touch the ground she breaks the rules

Watch at 33:17 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

on top of something like this or on a park bench or on a picnic table actually I leave my dog on a picnic table relatively frequently like we go out to a park sometimes I'll just like be like hey like place and she'll jump up on the picnic table

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hello i figured um i'd record while i am cleaning um i have fiona on the place cot right now um

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Quotation held: text matches, but timestamp or full-span transcript confidence still needs review.

Source moments

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chapter label

Why the raised beds?

Source at 26:02 ↗

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26:02

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Find that texture

Source at 85:58 ↗

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85:58

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Why a mat will not do

Source at 86:38 ↗

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86:38

chapter label

Place on a picnic table

Source at 87:32 ↗

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87:32

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Four paws, and nothing else

Source at 89:19 ↗

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89:19

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Why place is taught first

Source at 39:26 ↗

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39:26

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A boundary the dog can see

Source at 39:52 ↗

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39:52

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Why the penalty is fair

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09:04

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A downtown bench is a place

Source at 33:20 ↗

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33:20

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The four-paw rule

Source at 43:13 ↗

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43:13

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How long before go-home

Source at 17:27 ↗

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17:27

chapter label

Any position she wants

Source at 19:08 ↗

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19:08

chapter label

Why it looks random to dogs

Source at 19:58 ↗

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19:58

chapter label

The one command you keep pointing for

Source at 09:56 ↗

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09:56

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Never a punishment place

Source at 05:55 ↗

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05:55

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Place as a secure area

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02:29

chapter label

Calm on the cot transfers

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06:23

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Place while you cook

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00:01

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The cot doing its actual job

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01:57

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The cot in a two-dog house

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04:20

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Place on a rock

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01:07

chapter label

Place in a clothing store

Case story beats

Bullet

beat

An owner looks at a kit list and asks why it says raised beds. The answer takes two minutes and redefines the command: place is not a thing you buy, it is height, and the reason for identical cots is that the dog is learning to find a feel rather than an object. The owner then says it back in his own words, better.

Why the raised beds?

Watch at 24:44 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

yeah and that's concrete yeah and i kind of figured it was because of the cooling but i didn't even think about the fact that that would be a designated place that he could see and he knows that's where he needs to go

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bo

beat

A trainer working a dog who fights people at the crate door stops to forbid the thing every owner does, and asks for the emphasis himself. Timeout is off the table. The crate is going to become a place with nothing to fight about instead.

Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

instead what we're doing is we're changing that to an area where it's like hey dude like we don't need to fight why are we fighting like there's there's nothing to fight about here everything's cool right

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stormie

beat

Someone who says she is not one of the trainers turns a camera on while she cleans, and accidentally films the only footage in the corpus of the finished product being used: a dog on a cot, a floor being swept around her, nothing being taught.

hello i figured um i'd record while i am cleaning um i have fiona on the place cot right now um

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Questions for intake

What does the dog currently have to lie on - a flat mat, a soft bed, a crate mat, nothing? The answer decides whether the family already owns a legal place object or is starting from zero.

Where in the house does the dog need a place, and where else - porch, deck, car, someone else's house? The number of cots is a training decision, not a budget one.

Do you ever send the dog to his bed or his crate when he has done something wrong? This is the single question that would surface the punishment-place problem before the program starts.

Does the dog have any history with the crate - refusing to go in, guarding it, having to be dragged out? Bo's case turned on this and it is not a question a general behaviour list asks.

Is there anything physical that would make climbing onto a raised object hard - age, hips, size, a previous injury?

How many dogs are in the house, and can you currently give one of them a command without the other one doing it too?

Still to establish

Is 'texture' the real mechanism for portability, or is it simply that the dogs have been rewarded on raised objects many times? The trainer asserts the first; the footage only shows the outcome. A cheap check exists: does a dog who knows place on cots take a raised object with a completely different surface on the first ask?

Only one dog in the corpus is shown hesitating at a raised surface in public (Bullet, in a store). Is the climb itself ever a limiting factor for an older or a large dog, and is there a protocol for it?

The never-a-punishment rule is stated once, about one dog whose problem was in the crate. Is it a general house rule or a case-specific one? It is written here as general because nothing contradicts it, but nobody says 'always'.

Nobody in the corpus explains why calm on a cot should transfer to calm in the house. Louie's session asserts it and Roxy's case is run on the opposite assumption.

Luna's lesson says the facility aims at fifteen to twenty minutes before a dog goes home and leaves twenty to forty to the family. Is that the house standard, and does it sit behind the ten-to-thirty figure given on Kodak's kennel-mate?

Who runs the long place holds? Luna's lesson says outright that this trainer does not train place much any more because there are people who run drills on place all day. The corpus contains those recordings and almost no record of who is in them.

Source limitations

Speaker identity is unrecoverable for every statement of this concept. Each 'who' above is a role plus the exclusions the Tier 1 note could establish.

The word 'cot' is mistranscribed repeatedly and differently across these files: 'cops' and 'cop' (XRDK3HGF8iM), 'cat' (0Ryn-sQhWK0), 'tot' (KWSsGRPiP8A), 'play stop' (KKFbjjFvhqU 87:14), 'playstop' (BqaJnEffmRc), 'place cut' (wuhVeWrgwJ8), 'place caught' (TSAWDf3ifr8), 'playground' (a03T8pCM6IU). Quotes are reproduced as the transcripts have them; the readings are noted and are this reader's.

Luna's trspGmYuPAw runs on the en-US caption track, which came from an earlier Whisper pipeline rather than a human, so its capitalisation and line breaks are erratic.

0N7Qm-UHyyU's narrator says explicitly that it is 'not so much of a session', which contradicts the title's claim of 'Training'. It is used here as evidence of place in use, which is what it shows, and not as a training session.

Protocol rule 13 supersedes several Tier 1 judgements behind this concept. Stormie's 7WRHdfqW99w, the 56wAy4hz35A / FEJo9OMS4tk pair and 0N7Qm-UHyyU, and Luna's 03OxrjQibFQ, KvEiIHF-DEg, v6FuFjeL-Vk and 7f9nnd9WpCA were read before the rule existed and were called 'not a session', 'unestablishable' or counted as containing no training. They are duration place holds. Their notes and the Luna and Stormie arcs need a correction pass.

Bullet's XRDK3HGF8iM is titled an in-person evaluation and the note records that nothing in the audio is an intake or evaluation; the dog is already mid-program. The place passage is a handover conversation with the owners at the end of a park walk.

King's 0Ryn-sQhWK0 carries the low-confidence marker across 39:21-39:43, which is the four-feet-on-the-cot passage. No claim here rests on it alone: the same point is made in the high-confidence cues at 39:48-39:57 in the same file, and independently on Zeus and Luna.

Several quotes here begin mid-sentence because the cue boundary falls there - Sage's rock cue starts at the word 'rock', and King's at 'well am I still on place'. They are reproduced from the cue as it stands rather than tidied.

Connected library collections

These links follow eligible video assignments in the reviewed library. A source can feature more than one animal; the older research-folder name is not used to merge identities.

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